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of them citing boston pd. others citing federal sources. our own pete williams has taken a break from us to work the phones himself, and is now ready to speak us to in our washington bureau. pete, what do you know and what can we say? >> what we've been told by several source says there is no arrest. then it begins to break down from there, about whether -- let's start at the other end. what do they know? they believe they have video that shows what they were looking for. a person setting down a black nylon bag at the scene of one of the bombings and walking away. now as we go toward the other end of that, we have two conflicting source is on whether, you know, they see that person, they look at the face. do they know who it is or not? someone says yes, they are trying to find him. other sources say no, they are trying to figure out who it is. which is it, i don't know. i will say throughout this, from the beginning of this, this has been the hall mark of this story. that information that is pointing in totally different direction says coming from normally very dependable sources and you
to bring in pete williams, who's also standing by for us in washington, d.c. and pete, i understand that there was an initial positive test, but there's really no way to know whether it's really ricin until additional testing is done. >> ever since the anthrax mailings, no mail has gone directly to the white house, capitol hill and many other government offices. it's all sent to off site facilities to test it for various things. both facilities gave an initial positive for a poison called ricin. there were subsequent tests, they were conflicting. but you can't really know for sure what it is until it's sent to a lab and cultured and then you look under a mike scope to see what it is. now, we have seen events in the past, craig, ice ricin is made tr castor beans and someone will just take dried beans and grind them up and put them in a letter. now, that will test positive for ricin even though there's no ricin there. i guess it would be like the difference between poppies and opium. they're related, but it's not the same thing. so you won't know whether it's ricin until later today i
brought to your doorstep. >>> to our justice correspondent we go once again. pete williams in our washington bureau. pete, it probably bears repeating at this point while people may be seeing other aspects of security at their local airport train station, no reason to think this is anything beyond the boylston street bombings that we saw in boston. >> reporter: that's right. according to the officials i have talked to tonight, brian. of course they are still trying to figure out precisely what it was that happened in boston. we know that there were two bombs, but they are still saying there might have been others planted along the route of the marathon. packages found on the street were deemed suspicious and were being destroyed tonight. we still have not heard any firm confirmation of whether at least the five other packages actually were explosive devices, although some officials say there is reason to think they were. there is no suspect in custody. but people are very interested in questioning a young person with a student visa who has burns and was seen by witnesses running f
, it appears they have pictures of their suspect. our justice correspondent pete williams has been following the investigation all day. he's in our d.c. newsroom tonight. pete, good evening. >> reporter: brian, good evening. the fbi is pursuing very promising leads. one in particular tonight thanks to the abundance of pictures and videos rounded up in the two days since the bombing. we are getting a close-up look at how the bombs were made. >> guys, guys, guys. no way. >> reporter: the fbi says it is getting exactly what it asked for. pictures from several sources showing someone carrying a heavy backpack or duffel bag and placing it at the spot where one bomb went off. one of the most promising images, they say, comes from a department store surveillance camera high up on a building, able to look down at the crowd. on a day when incorrect news reports of an arrest distracted officials, investigators were working aggressively to discover, find, and interview that person. that's at the scene of the second bombing following the first by about 15 seconds. it's that second spot shown on this pic
if things go well, they could -- in the come days. >> pete williams, is there any problems respect as far as you know to whether this is domestic or foreign. >> not yet. they still haven't identified who did it. many of the materials in the bomb were made in china, but lots of things are made in china, widely available here then the other is looks at these pictures. they have identified several things that stand out to them. but that would be a process of elimination. >> there have been questions to why we talk about the devices. the fbi is putting pictures out, because they want us to let people know what has been used. >> but just to be clear, these pictures were actually not released by the fbi or the government. we've gotten or hands on them, because they were either in intelligence bulletins, or i've never seen this many pictures this early in an investigation. i think the fbi shared them with some of their intelligence partners overseas who leaked them to an overseas news agency who put the pictures out there. but all these pictures, very surprising. >> it is surprising. thanks for
's events. pete williams nbc's justice correspondent is on the line as well. i'm sorry, i said there were two confirmed dead, it's three confirmed dead in the incident now. bill keithing is joining us with and reporters there on scene today. the bottom line is 113 wounded by blasts, at least three people killed. and in boston today, as you know today is the boston marathon, and the boston marathon is held on a state holiday in massachusetts only that's called patriot's day. and that always makes today a different kind of day than the rest of the year. but driving through boston tonight to get here to get to mass general, it's eerie. it's eerie in boston tonight that even with all of the security response that we've got right now, there's just nobody out. and obviously people are doing that and staying at home in order to respect the wishes of law enforcement authorities who are telling people essentially to stay out of the way while the investigation continues. as we get further details on the investigation, boston is left to confront the fact that with everything planned, with everything
correspondent pete williams is standing by. i am just reading information that you put in regarding the components of this bomb and what authorities believe was used to make the explosives. what can you tell me? >> they say they were crudely made. that doesn't mean that they weren't powerful and they were. they were made with gunpowder, bbs and ball bearings packed inside a pressure cooker. let me point to a picture from a homeland security bulletin. we're going to get in real tight on these little pots down here. this is what pressure cookers look like. give it a second to focus and see how much tighter we can get. these are what pressure cookers look like in case you haven't seen them. these are rather inexpensive pressure cookers. in case you've not ever dealt with one. a pot with a cover on it that you can make basically air tight and food cooks faster. and then for at least a decade, they've been used to make bombs around the world. so inside is the explosive and the authorities believe it is gunpowder or smokeless powder. all these parts are commonly available. so someone coul
followed as well. mike barnicle, it was pete williams who went against every instinct in this 24/7 news culture where people seem far more interested in getting it first than getting it right. it was pete williams who kept saying that information is incorrect. and he acted like a news reporter is supposed to act. he actually waited until he got the information and passed it on to everyone else. not an especially good day for journalism yesterday with news outlets messing up on an issue this important to the american people because they are just interested in speed instead of accuracy. >> yeah. i know. it wasn't a good day, joe, for this business. the pressures, of course, are enormous today. the pressures to get things first is e nermnormous, we know. it's now a first, let's get it first! look. we all make mistakes in this business, in every business. i probably lead the league in mistakes in terms of getting things into newspapers and what have you. but the larger issue here is what is going on in the back bay about six blocks from where we sit now out in front of the holy cross cathed
me now, nbc news justin correspondent pete williams and michael leiter. pete, ha have you learn about the bombs themselves? >> well, what we're told by authorities, andrea, is that they're crudely made. they appear to have been assembled inside a pressure cooker. it may be some of our younger viewers don't know what that is, but in the olden days when you wanted to make something tender, you put it in this pot with a tight lid on it. and the steam wouldn't escape and you could build up pressure and things cook faster in them. the premicrowave days. inside a pot like this, a pressure cooker is assembled the device. it includes a low-power explosive. something like black or smokeless powder, gun powder, if you will. not a high explosive like dynamite or a plastic explosive or the common tatp, which seems to be the one of voice of terrorists when they build bombs, terror bombs overseas. so it's crudely made, it's set off they believe by some kind of electronic timer. it's carried to the scene, they believe, in some kind of back pack and then just set down before the devices go off. unfor
, as pete williams and myself have been reporting all day, there is no suspect. there is no arrest. there is no specific name. now, we've been told that there have been several names out there that obviously they would want to run them down but we've been told that it's ruled out. the investigation is ongoing, moving forward. the piece of tape is one of many critical pieces that they are using to try to track suspects but right now no arrests. >> tell me how that's done. you're being looking at a piece of video, you enlarge it, try to improve its fidelity, its picture? what do you do? you look at the wanted posters? how do you identify -- do you look through mug shots? how do you find that person? >> the technology has improved tremendously in terms of facial recognition technology and they are using that matching images on video at the scene to any faces that might be in databases and running that to see if there's any sort of match. another way is, okay, here's an image that we've got. let's go back to others who we know that were at the scene and who were at businesses nearby an
was intercepted and initially tested positive for the poison, ricen. pete williams will join us with the latest on this story. but first, while we may not know anything about who attacked the boston marathon yesterday or why, just over 24 hours after the explosion, there is a lot of new information tonight about the devices used in the attack. about to exekt from the investigati investigation. there were two explosive devices which exploded yesterday. no more along the route or city of boston. the devices appear to have consists of explosive and shrapnel put into pressure cookers. they have recovered black nylon bags at the sights of both devices. they are believed to have been used to transport the devices to the scene. what happens next is that every single fragment of bomb material recovered from those sites will be sent to an fbi land in quantico, virginia, where they can be analyzed by the fbi and atf experts and even checked for dna. investigators have launched a major push to seek information from the public, including tips on suspicious behavior and photo and video taken around the race
things, please pass along information to us. bill bratton in our london bureau tonight. pete williams, our justice correspondent, continues to make calls and report this story out from our washington bureau. pete, what do you have? >> reporter: well, i was struck by what the police commissioner said about urging people to stay home. the fact that there seemed to be at least as far as his information goes two separate incidents and two separate places in boston. one at the scene of the marathon, the other at the jfk library. and we also have seen a number of local communities raise their sort of alert level, putting more people on the street. and i'm assured, though, by a couple of federal officials that i've talked to that they're not -- this is not happening because of some additional information that something else is going on that we don't know about. that these -- that the department of homeland security, for example, an official there tells me it has not put out any kind of an advisory urging local communities to be on a higher level of alert. that what we're seeing around town o
. our justice correspondent pete williams has been working this story all day. pete, what can you tell us tonight? >> tonight authorities confirm that there were two bombs. we know that much. but it's unclear how many others were planted. they say there were other suspicious packages. and the word, of course, of another bomb elsewhere placed at the jfk library is apparently turning out not to be true. at least five other packages have been found on the street, have been deemed suspicious and are being destroyed. but there is no firm confirmation of whether they were actually explosive devices although some officials tonight say there is reason to think that some of them were. we are told, by the way, that one of the two victims killed in the explosion was 8 years old. boston police say there was no specific intelligence warning of any kind of attack. federal officials tonight say there is no reason to think that this is part of any larger threat. at this point they believe it is confined to boston. but a meeting tonight will decide whether any kind of national alert will be sent out. t
in boston. nbc's pete williams has been following the investigation in d.c. all day. pete, good evening. >> brian, good evening. still so many questions, but one has been answered, how many explosive devices were left at the scene. that answer is two. and officials describe them as crudely made but effectively used. and as of tonight, no suspects, no idea who did it or why. >> reporter: investigators have begun the process of recovering tiny pieces of the bombs to learn how they were made. they say it appears the devices were assembled inside pressure cooker pots similar to this one packed with bbs, ball bearings and nails to magnify the injury. as these homeland security bulletins note, pressure cookers have been used for decades in terror bombings. instructions for making them appear on the internet including just last month in an al qaeda magazine "inspire." investigators say the explosive in boston was most likely smokeless powder, gunpowder like this, available at sporting goods store, not something more powerful like dynamite. and they believe the bombs were carried to the scene i
. others citing federal sources. pete williams has taken a break from us to work the phones himself and is now ready to speak to us at our washington bureau. pete, what do you know? >> what we have been told by several sources that there is no arrest. then it begins to break down from there about whether -- let's start at the other end. what do they know? they believe they have video that shows what they were looking for. a person setting down a black nylon bag at the scene of oneover the bombings and walking away. now as we go towards the other end of that, we have two conflicting sources on whether they see that person, they look at the face, do they know who it is or not. someone says, yes, they are trying to find them. other sources say, no, they are trying to find out who it is. from the beginning of this, this has been the hallmark of the story. information that is pointing in totally different directions is coming from normally very dependable sources. we can't just flip a coin and pick one. we have to have them line up before we can say for sure what it is. so all we can say
justice correspondent pete williams has the very latest. >> reporter: investigators have begun the process of recovering tiny pieces of the bombs to learn how they were made. they say it appears the devices were assembled inside pressure cooker pots similar to this one, packed with bbs, ball bearings and nails. pressure cookers have been used for decades in terror bombings. instructions for making them appear on the internet, including just last month in an al qaeda magazine "inspire." investigators say the explosion in boston was smokeless powder, gunpowder like this available at sporting goods stores, not something more powerful like dynamite. and they believed they were carried in the scene in dark nylon bags and set off by timers. the area was checked twice for bombs but there was no security screening. >> because there is unrestricted access to the racecourse, simply because it's 28 miles long, people can come and go and bring items in and out. >> reporter: authorities searched the apartment of a foreign student injured in the blast and seen run ago way but they found nothing and he i
? we've been told by our own pete williams that we're talking about two bombs, pressure cookers, loaded with some sort of material in backpacks. >> well actually the news accounts over the last 24 hours have gotten much better as you know. i think that the fbi and the boston police department and the state police have done a good job of sorting some of the early data and getting the information out to the public. i thought the governor's position was very helpful. >> what are you hearing from the white house? what help are you getting from them? >> well, you note that the president in his press conference or at least his remarks, indicated for the first time that it was an act of terror. i think that given the aftermath of the richard jewel situation back in atlanta. that the white house was cautionary, but declaring this is an ak of terror it means it was undertaken in a sophisticated manner. let me say that the place where these two bombs exploded near the lennox hotel, behind the boston public library, on boylston street, it is the apex of where everybody gathers at the end of the ma
had a lot to work with. let's keep all of this in perspective. pete williams is saying that video surveillance or the video evidence, that has been very productive as has the forensic evidence involving the bomb fragments which we have been showing you yesterday and today. the pressure cooker bombs that a lot was remarkably in tact. they were able to look at the ball bearings and shrapnel and look at that. the pieces of the pressure cooker enough to figure out the manufacturer. so they can track it down that way. the hope is what they have wanted all along is to see the image of whoever put down that black bag that contained -- black bags that contained the box. >> if i read this, what i find most fascinating, if you read it quite literally, somebody is about to be arrested for the bombings. the official says the suspect will be taken into custody. it sounds as if they know where this person is. it sounds as if, from what we have, this is not somebody who is necessarily on the run. would you agree? >> yeah. it is extremely unusual as i looked at that alert if you're anybody in law
will update us at 5:00. rhett's get the latest from justice correspondent pete williams. pete, after yesterday's confusion, yesterday and this morning even, it seems everyone is sort of on the same page now. what's the latest you've got for us? >> well, i think the fbi is having this news conference is they want to show some pictures. these are pictures of two men that they're most eager to identify, find, and interview based on their review of all the mountain of pictures they've received. it's really quite extraordinary when you think about it that the fbi made this request for pictures. they were inundated with an amount of data equivalent to 25,000 hours of youtube video. what they got was higher resolution, so it's not that many hours but that gives you the idea of the sheer tonnage of vehicle and they managed to look at great deal of that and hone in on two people whose movements and behavior have raised some questions that they would like to answer. they want to try to find these people. so far they've not been able. they can clearly see their faces, but they don't know their names. the
. and for the very latest on the investigation, we're joined now by nbc news justice correspondent pete williams from washington. so, pete, the very latest on the pressure cooker scenario that you're hearing? >> right. as you say, used for decades in terms of building bombs, so that's not going to be an area of inquiry that will immediately lead them in a certain direction, because the instructions, unfortunately, for making these devices are all over internet. just last month, the al qaeda online magazine "inspire" repeated an article that showed how to build pressure cooker bombs. so they've been out there for a long time. the part, the components of this device appear not to be very fancy. in addition to that, there were shrapnel, ball bearings, bbs, from the sound of the doctors you heard at the beginning of your program, apparently nails as well. and then for the explosive basically gun powder, smokeless powder that's commonly available in sporting goods stores. so all these pieces are easily available. some kind of timer as well. then placed in black sacks and put in two different spots. so wha
correspondent pete williams. pete, i'd like to go to you first, given what the president just said coming out and saying it is an act of terror does not come as much of a surprise, given the contours of this. but still something worth remarking on in terms of how the white house is handling this event. >> perhaps so. but this is a case of you know, do as i say, not as i do. or perhaps actions speak louder than words, is what i meant. the very fact that it was announced last night that the fbi was taking the lead in this investigation answered the question. because the fbi has jurisdiction in a case like this only if it's considered an act of terrorism. we crossed that bridge last night. with the words were used or not. in terms of the investigation, let's just clear up a couple of points that were confusing overnight. just two devices, there was a suggestion there were others because so many packages had to be destroyed. there was mixed information about whether any of them campaigned explosives, they did not. sports are starting to learn more about the kproe significance of the bomb. how it
williams in our washington bureau tonight. pete, thanks. and after this sad, depressing day in boston, lester holt, part of our team here, is here tonight with the news of this day. lester? >> brian, this heavy police presence will be a way of life for boston residents for some time to come, but there were thousands of visitors here, spectators, they came to bear witness to a great sporting event. instead they are filing out of town having beared witness to terror. >> reporter: a runner, a camera strapped to her body with a view of the finish line on the horizon. a view that changes in an instant. it is one of countless images that captured the day, images authorities hope also captured the bombers. >> something just blew up. >> there has to be hundreds, if not thousands, of photographs or videos or observations that were made down at that finish line yesterday. and they're sitting out there amongst everyone that's watching this event this morning. >> i need officers. a secondary device! >> reporter: recordings of emergency radio traffic have been released. >> there's multiple people
pete williams from washington and nbc's kristen welker at the white house. pete, i'm going to start with you. what are we expecting to hear at this fbi briefing within the next hour? >> we're going to hear, i believe, why they're interested in these two particular people. what it is they've done. what they can be seen doing that attracts their attention and raises their interest and why they want to find and talk to them. they know what they look like. they know what they were doing. the fbi has always thought that the bombs were carried to the scene in black nylon duffel bags or backpacks. they an see on these pictures the men, these two men carrying heavy backpack and duffel bag. they believe the bombs were relatively heavy, probably around 20 pounds. they were in the vicinity of where the bombs were found. so, where they were set off. so they want to find them. they don't know who they are, and they're going to ask for public assistance, we believe, in identifying the men. and you may remember that they asked for both photos and video. so it's certainly possible that we'll see bo
at eye level. so perhaps that gives more after bird's-eye view. >> pete williams, we know you are busy working phones so we will let you bet back to it. let's get to former nypd, tom, what do you make of the latest information that's coming out? >> well, it's exactly what's been said all along the law enforcement will put the pieces of the puzzle together. they will slowly and meticulously go through not only forensic evidence, the bomb, the remnants of the bomb in a crime scene type of way and give it to atf to put together. because that's what those guys do and those what those guys do well. then what they are going to do is look at surveillance cameras. we know from lord & taylor that is right there on boyleston street, they will go through the film and they may have the person of interest that may have placed the bombs. the video is probably newer quality and a newer brand and give law enforce amount good eye's view on who put the bomb's down and mabybe even a facial shot of who did it. >> is this where the see video e evidence used to identify person and then more definitive infor
? >> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect.story? >> pete williams is reporting that they have made this arrest of suspect. they may have him in court later. we believe he's from tupelo, mississippi. we're not sure on his name. but pete williams reporting that story and of course cnbc will have all the details for you on that 8:00 p.m. news conference as well as this late breaking development in the ricin letters. >> thanks very much. now, president obama's gun control agenda was dealt devastating blow today. 54 senators including five democrats voted to defeat a proposal to expand background checks. >> a main setback for those in favor of heightening the rules. expanding gun background checks failed to win over the senate. it was a plan put together by senator joe manchin and pat toomey. it needed 60 votes to move ahead and it got only 54. president obama briefed the press shortly after the vote. he repeated the importance of gun control and expressed his own frustration. he even said the gun lobby willfully lied about the bill. >> instead of suppor
. pete williams, our justice correspondent continues to work this story. but anything to add? the think it's safe to say concern about the possibility this could have been spreading around boston and they did not know where it was going next is starting to abate a little bit. it has not gone away because they still don't know who did this and that until they know that, they cannot know whoever is out there may not be plotting something like that again. it was useful to hear from the boston authorities knocking down some of the rumors out there that they had a suspect in custody. they are questioning a number of people. there are police and federal agents talking to people, not only who were at the scene and were witnesses, but talking to people in hospitals with injuries. it is often times the case that people to set off bombs don't get away. the mere fact they are injured doesn't need their victims. they may have been involved that we know there are federal authorities and state authorities talking to people but nobody has been declared a suspect at this point. say we have safe to seen
. we'll see more of you tomorrow morning. all day long our justice correspondent pete williams has been working on this story from our washington bureau. he has more on it tonight. >> tonight investigators know this attack involved two bombs. how many more is unclear. at least five other packages found on the street were deemed suspicious and destroyed. there were many packages to check because after the explosions many people dropped what they were carrying and ran leaving their packages behind. we have heard conflicting accounts about whether there were some unexploded bombs. some officials say yes. the two other packages that were found that contained some other form of explosives but others say no. several say the two bombs that did go off included shrapnel. >> people williams in our washington bureau with the latest that's known about this investigation. thanks. during our live coverage during the afternoon today we heard from a lot of eyewitnesss including two journalists with the boston globe. steve silva and david able. they both walked us through what they saw. >> at the finish
of calls coming in. we're told by pete williams that the fbi is receiving calls of suspected matchups with the faces here. >> they are getting some names and now what they are trying to do is run those names through data is bas and s databases and there is no name to match the suspects. but they are operating those lines. they have task force teams obviously ready to run out and follow any leads as they come in. some names are being offered from the calls and e-mails that are coming in but as of now there is no certain match and they are, again, using all their computers and technology to try to, as the names come in, to try to find them and find out which tips are more credible than the others. >> i'm wondering, jonathan, if you were in that crowd and survived and you're watching right now, does the human memory work that way that you would recognize these two guys walking along dressed as they were? >> i don't know. looking over the videotapes of that crowd, people were coming, going, celebratory, people watching the race, looking out on to the marathoners finishing up looking for t
and the investigation into what happened. we begin with that. and nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. pete, what do officials know? what are they saying? >> well, consider this interesting fact. i just talked to a person who has done a lot of bomb investigations who says that under normal conditions, it is possible to gather up 93 to 98% of the bomb devices themselves. even though they will be in little pieces and will be all bent up. most of the bombs will not be consumed by the explosion. so they're optimistic that they will have within a fairly short time here, it may take a couple of days, a pretty good idea of exactly how these devices were made. and already they say they have a rough idea of what components were used to make the bombs. unfortunately, these are very common methods. there is nothing that really stands out. they say that the pieces were assembled in a pressure cooker. that there were ball bearings and bbs inside. some kind of gunpowder used as the explosive within a timer to set it off. and placed on the scene in some sort of black sacks. whether they're backpacks or no
to nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. pete, thank you very much and thank you for getting things right today. i want to ask you what we do know about how the investigation's developed and how you would characterize the progress that is being made, given there was no arrest today, there is no single identified suspect, but nevertheless, it does seem like the last 24 hours have been quite good from the standpoint of progressing through this investigation. >> well, i think they consider it very promising, and here's the reason. they've been asking for pictures, they have what they believe are pretty important pictures that show from several different angles a young man at the second -- at the scene of the second bombing talking on a cell phone, setting down a backpack, and then dashing away just before that bomb explodes. they don't know who it is. they have a good look at that person, and they are eager to do three things, figure out who that person is, find them, and talk to them. and we are told they haven't done any of those things yet, but there are several angles that t
to the media-generated chaos. joining us now, pete williams, who i should tell you, is in the same building i am in but is at another camera because he needs to be close to his desk phone. it truly is that kind of day in the news, pete. thank you very much for being here. >> you bet. >> what do we know about what authorities have been able to find from combing through the pictures and videos in the two days since the bombing? >> well, i think you've summarized it well. the holy grail for them was to see someone setting down a heavy backpack or duffel bag, a black nylon bag, that they believe this relatively heavy bomb was carried in. they think it weighed about 20 pounds, setting it down at the scene of one or the other of the bombings, and then getting away. they believe they have found a picture like that, first from the store surveillance camera that you noted, but they since have been able to triangulate that or get other views of it from other pictures and recordings that people who are in the area have sent them. people who have sent them pictures not knowing what exactly was to be foun
straight to nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams, in washington. pete, there's been a lot of back and forth this afternoon. straighten it out for us. what have you heard about a potential person of interest and where are we in this investigation? >> well, what we're told is that the pictures have been quite valuable. that they've found from a surveillance camera on a building -- and this makes sense if you think about the building surveillance camera being up high so that it can look down on the crowd and get a sort of bird's eye view. that they think that they see a picture of exactly what they're looking for. someone setting down a backpack or a duffel bag and then walking away. that's the kind of picture they're looking for. they have seen a face on that picture, we're told. they're now trying to figure out who that person is, find them and question them. that's where it stands right now. we're told they don't know who that person is, but it's a rapidly moving investigation. i'm sure everyone would like to have this whole thing wrapped up by the time the president gets there to
, pete williams, has been working this story all day. pete, what can you tell us tonight? >> reporter: brian, tonight authorities confirm there were two bombs, we know that much, but it's unclear how many others were planted. there were other suspicious packages. the word of another bomb elsewhere placed at the jfk library is apparently turning out not to be true. at least five other packages have been found on the street, have been deemed suspicious and are being destroyed, but this is no firm confirmation of whether they were actually explosive devices, although some officials tonight say there is reason to think that some of them were. we're told, by the way, that one of the two victims that was killed in the explosion was 8 years old. boston police say there was no specific intelligence warning of any kind of attack, and federal officials tonight say there is no reason to think that this is part of any larger threat. at this point they believe it is confined to boston, but a meeting tonight will decide whether any kind of national alert will be sent out. there is no suspect in cus
williams joins me now live with the latest. pete, the fact that the fbi is withholding these photos, what is the reason? they've been wanting public help from the beginning of this investigation. but they don't seem to want to put this in public just yet. what's holding them back? >> not yet. i would guess frankly by the end of today it's a likelihood we'll begin to see these pictures. it just depends on whether they can run the string out that they have and identify them on their own. they would prefer to do it that way of course because that way they can preserve some element of surprise here. the problem is they don't know who these people are. they are focused especially on two people now. two young men and they don't know who they are so they what they want to do is find where they are and question them and see what they were up to. they would prefer to do that on their own if they can. so far they have not been able to. i believe they will release these pictures and it may happen today, chuck. >> the fact they would release the pictures, that would be then them saying we need help f
this hour with nbc justice correspondent pete williams and former cia counterterrorism director larry johnson. two best guests we could have. pete, let's go back to that picture we just saw from whdh up there, boston affiliate of nbc. what are the experts making of the fact that it was there, that bag, whatever it is sitting there before the explosion and then in this picture taken afterwards you can see the smoke trailing up to the left there diagona diagonally? what does that tell us? >> it tells us it's something they're investigating, chris. they know, they believe very strongly that the bombs were brought to the scene in backpacks. but i think it's fair to say they're looking at whether after they got there, they put them in these shopping bags. now, that thing next to the -- to the bag that's just on the edge of the little spot shot circle there, that is a trash receptacle. could it be? it's a question. could it be the devices were placed in these trash bags next to trash receptacles to look inconspicuous? it's something that they're -- that they're studying and something that i
. pete williams is nbc's justice correspondent. michael leiter is former direction of the national counterterrorism center. pete, this morning we've heard a lot about this individual who was questioned overnight and then his home was searched. we heard michael isikoff mention that it's actually two saudis that have been investigated, but this doesn't appear to be -- >> they were the two that were in his apartment. right. >> there doesn't appear to be much to this, right? spl well, it's too soon to know. there have been some conflicting accounts about what he was doing right before and right after the bombing. he was seen running from the scene. well, of course a lot of people were. but he had severe burns. apparently his clothing was on fire. and that means that he was obviously standing very close to one of the devices. so that makes him suspicious in the minds of some people. he's been questioned. one official told me this morning -- i said could it turn out that he was just an innocent bystander and the official said, yes, it could. but nonetheless, just to show how thorough thi
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